On “The Kelly File” Thursday night, host Megyn Kelly spoke to the NRA Institute for Legislative Action’s Chris Cox about his organization’s decision not to attend President Barack Obama’s town hall meeting on gun control with CNN.

Kelly asked Cox if his organization would be willing to meet with the president, to which he replied, “let’s be clear what this is really about — this president is trying to create an illusion that he’s doing something to keep people safe. He needs to do that because the truth is his policies have failed miserably.”

Chris Cox has no interest in meeting with Obama, because “what are we going to talk about? Basketball?”