As part of Megyn Kelly’s exclusive sit-down with members of the Duggar family on Wednesday, daughters Jill Duggar Dillard and Jessa Duggar Seewald confirmed that they were among the five young girls their older brother, Josh, sexually assaulted when he was a teenager. In an emotional exchange, Dillard tearfully identified herself and her sisters as victims, while Seewald called her brother’s actions “very wrong.” Then she proceeded to defend him.

We’re watching a display of typical patterns of abuse unfold in real time